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Dellec 4 covers by MicahJGunnell Dellec 4 covers by MicahJGunnell
Lines by me, colors by the incomparable Peter Steigerwald.
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0becomingX Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
This is kinda racist, i wish one of the heroes were ethnic >_> those guys in the lower left corner seem bad i don't thinks it's a great representation of african Americans or native americans. Even thought I like the drawings, it's not always the greatest idea to cast only ethnic people as criminals
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MicahJGunnell Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2011  Professional Filmographer
First off, I'm married to someone of both indigenous and African decent, so I can assure you there was no intention of any kind of racist element to the depictions here. If you look at prisons, the gangs are almost always divided up into groups based entirely on race. The main black character(or his design) wasn't my idea, but being that he's the leader of a gang, it only makes sense that the other members of his gang are of the same race. The other characters are also of a different gang that's at war with the Black gang. Seriously, the political correct police thing is really lame...I'm an artist, and its my responsibility show realism in my work. I want to portray life as it really is, and I'm not going to pull any punches merely for the sake of political correctness. In my opinion that mindset is fake non-racism, because really, you're going out of your way LOOKING for racism or some kind of racial connotation to everything. Just chill out, I'm the furthest thing from being racist.
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0becomingX Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I'm not implying you are racist at all, and i respect you as an artist but the racial roles are still there. I understand that it may not have been your idea, but the white smiling heroes and the menacing ethnic bad guys are still depicted. I just feel that as artists, photographers, writers, movie directors, comic artists, art directors, and whatever we are.

I think it is one of our responsibilities show equality in a positive way. I understand what you are saying about realism but comics are not real life, comics may be inspired by real life but they are still fictional stories. Why not depict a better, more equal world? Why not have a gang of white, black and native American? It is not impossible even in real life.

I think, It's important to get rid of those kind of subliminal messages and let everyone know that it is ok to be who they are, and not feel pressured because they are not the picture perfect white hero. anyway I'm not pin pointing you because I've noticed it in a lot of the media today, the number of positive representations of ethnicity is still lower than representations of white people and i think we as a society should be past that.

That is all, I did not mean to offend only educate and critique. I'm chill when i say this because I'm self aware, and i think of that is a good thing. I use to never want to bring up any of those "words" because the fact that you would say black, white, red or yellow would acknowledge a difference and in reality there is no difference.

but not everyone in our world today understands that. Even though we have gone a long way as a society there is always further to go. Every person can make a difference and comics can make an impact too. Because comics are something that both old and young people like to enjoy and the fantasy worlds do have a direct impact on the real world.
that is all thank you.
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MicahJGunnell Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2011  Professional Filmographer
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with some of the points you're making, however, keep in mind that this is not my creation, and its not always the choice of the artist what ethnicity the characters are or whether they are role models. I personally love drawing people of all ethnicities and try to do so as much as possible(not so much for a politically correct reason, merely to make things look more visually interesting). As I said, I didn't choose the ethnicity of the bad guy in the lower left. The female character on the upper right who is smiling is not a hero, but the main villain. In a perfect world no one would care whether the main characters in a book are white, black, or some other shade, but the truth is, many books featuring minority main characters don't sell very well...There are quite a few examples of this. I personally don't care about this but sales are a big factor for publishers.

I have to admit, you did rub me the wrong way with your comments because you didn't say anything positive about the work(in either of your comments), and you just seemed to be taking a overly politically correct stance without knowing anything about the characters. Of course, that's your prerogative, but I didn't care for it. While I can honestly say I have nothing against anyone based on skin color, I don't agree with your position that its "our responsibility" to try to subconsciously change people's opinions. That's the propagandist's job, not the job of an artist. In my opinion we're here to show reality, whether ugly or beautiful, politically correct, or incorrect and let the reader make their own conclusions. Reality is not politically correct, and it can be offensive. That's life. If I'm creating my own book, it might be a bit of a different story, but for the time being, my responsibility is to tell the stories I'm given in the best way I know how.
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0becomingX Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I did not mean to "rub" you the wrong way I only wanted to comment. I did say in my orginial comment that "Even thought I like the drawings, it's not always the greatest idea to cast only ethnic people as criminals" meaning the technical skill are there I just wasn't sure about how I felt about the casting, I know you had nothing to do with that now.

I know I can't make you agree with my point of view, there is an old saying that you can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink and that is very true. I belive what i believe and you believe what you believe and i think we will leave it at that but atleast we had the opportunity to exchange opinions and there is no harm in that.
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mariankiller Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2011  Professional Filmographer
nice
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Sanctioned Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2010
WHY AND HOW DID I MISS THIS? D; It must have gotten buried in my deviations somehow... REALLY nice work :)
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IanStruckhoff Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2010  Professional General Artist
Very creative composition, and killer work by both of you!
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daaav Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2010  Professional General Artist
That's awesome !! I like the "concept" ^^ !!
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RyanOttley Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2010  Professional Artist
Very cool idea! Looks amazing.
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